Legal Cannabis and Morality
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(11-20-2020, 11:07 AM)LeonardHamilton Wrote: I completely agree with you. Coffee and alcohol might as well be considered drugs. It's all about how people perceive it. I think in the near future, marijuana will be as common as coffee.

Whether coffee and alcohol are "drugs" depends on the definition. If they are, so would be vitamin supplements and most foods. If the definition is substances on which one can become dependent, then countless other things can be added, especially certain foods, sodas, even sex.

No biologist or pharmacist would define "drug" as something on which one could become dependent. They would usually define a drug as a chemical substance which is ingested for the purposes of treating or diagnosing a disease, and add that abuse of drugs is when these substances are taken for their psychotropic effects when there is no disease.

Looking at the chemical components of coffee and alcohol, we see caffeine and ethanol.

Firstly, caffeine and alcohol have no psychotropic effects in normal quantities normally consumed. Therefore, both can be used in moderation by most people without any deleterious effects.

Marajuana cannot. Even a small amount (e.g. a puff of a joint) of cannabis in the typical varieties available cause notable psychotropic effects. Rarely is consumption limited to a puff. One 2012 study suggested that the depressant effects on the nervous system of one joint of an average strain of cannabis was the equivalent intoxication of 75 grams of pure ethanol (about 8 oz of an 80 proof whisky or ~5 shots). That is not a moderate amount of alcohol, and that is only one typical joint, which is likely a low ball estimate of daily consumption for regular users.

Marajuana causes observable harmful effects even in small quantites, especially in those whose brains are still developing (i.e. those under 25). Even regular light use causes observable and irreversible and harmful changes in the brain. If some of its effects are helpful to treat a disease, then, like Ibuprofen, using something which has some health risks on one front, but because the benefit is greater. This is why no moral theologian objects to medical use of marajuana, especially if the proper compounds are isolated rather than mere license to smoke dope. It has no health benefits when there is no underlying disease. This is the key point as to why its use outside of medical situations by healthy people is sinful.

Alcohol is, in fact, a normal chemical produced in the body in the normal metabolic cycle. The vast majority of people can get health benefits from moderate alcohol use (1-2 drinks per day), especially from wine and beer which contain vitamins and micronutrients. In fact, moderate use of alcohol in the vast majority of people produces health effects that abuse of alcohol takes away. Alcohol has health benefits even for people who are health and where there is no underlying disease.

That said, if some is drinking for the "high" or to get tipsy or drunk, that is sinful. It is an abuse of alcohol. That does not mean one cannot enjoy a beer or whisky, but if the purpose if to deaden one's mind, already that's abuse and sinful.

Caffeine is more clearly a drug, because it is not naturally produced in the body, but again, use of coffee can be shown to have some health benefits in people without a disease, and it can be used in moderation.

Even if marajuana use becomes commonplace, it does not make it morally acceptable.

EDITED TO ADD : In a post in this thread much longer ago, I made a calculation error with the pure alcohol density, and so suggested that the study said a joint was 1.5 oz of pure alcohol. Instead of going back to edit, I present the corrected amount here.)
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Legal Cannabis and Morality - by 1Faith - 09-17-2019, 01:52 AM
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