Validity question
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(09-29-2019, 03:38 PM)Birdie Wrote: Just so I know where I stand here:

The Eucharist is literally the Body and Blood of Christ, right?

And the Eucharist contains Christ in His humanity and divinity, the Second Person of the Holy Trinity, right?

Those are the points that came up, and which I had to defend. But I'll own it, if I'm wrong.

The Council of Trent defines as de fide  (i.e. that it must be believed as part of the Catholic Faith) that the Eucharist is (and does not merely contain) the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Jesus Christ who is really, truly and substantially, but Sacramentally presents under the accidents (appearances, sometimes referred to as "the species of") of Bread and Wine.

If one denies this he asserts a material heresy. If he denies it knowingly he is guilty of the sin of heresy which is a sin against the Faith, so he has lost the Catholic Faith. If he persists in this through malicious stubbornness he can be declared a formal heretic and excommunicated once officially judged to be a heretic and stripped of his ecclesiastical rank.

Thus in session XIII of the Council of Trent it infallibly defines this by condemnation :

Quote:CANON I.-If any one denieth, that, in the sacrament of the most holy Eucharist, are contained truly, really, and substantially, the body and blood together with the soul and divinity of our Lord Jesus Christ, and consequently the whole Christ; but saith that He is only therein as in a sign, or in figure, or virtue; let him be anathema.

CANON II.-If any one saith, that, in the sacred and holy sacrament of the Eucharist, the substance of the bread and wine remains conjointly with the body and blood of our Lord Jesus Christ, and denieth that wonderful and singular conversion of the whole substance of the bread into the Body, and of the whole substance of the wine into the Blood-the species Only of the bread and wine remaining-which conversion indeed the Catholic Church most aptly calls Transubstantiation; let him be anathema.

CANON III.-If any one denieth, that, in the venerable sacrament of the Eucharist, the whole Christ is contained under each species, and under every part of each species, when separated; let him be anathema.

CANON IV.-If any one saith, that, after the consecration is completed, the body and blood of our Lord Jesus Christ are not in the admirable sacrament of the Eucharist, but (are there) only during the use, whilst it is being taken, and not either before or after; and that, in the hosts, or consecrated particles, which are reserved or which remain after communion, the true Body of the Lord remaineth not; let him be anathema.

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CANON VIII.-lf any one saith, that Christ, given in the Eucharist, is eaten spiritually only, and not also sacramentally and really; let him be anathema.
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Messages In This Thread
Validity question - by Birdie - 09-29-2019, 09:08 AM
RE: Validity question - by FultonFan - 09-29-2019, 10:45 AM
RE: Validity question - by josh987654321 - 09-29-2019, 11:04 AM
RE: Validity question - by The Tax Collector - 09-29-2019, 02:24 PM
RE: Validity question - by MagisterMusicae - 09-29-2019, 03:11 PM
RE: Validity question - by Birdie - 09-29-2019, 03:38 PM
RE: Validity question - by MagisterMusicae - 09-29-2019, 06:19 PM
RE: Validity question - by Birdie - 09-29-2019, 06:36 PM
RE: Validity question - by MagisterMusicae - 09-29-2019, 08:41 PM
RE: Validity question - by jovan66102 - 09-29-2019, 09:02 PM
RE: Validity question - by josh987654321 - 09-30-2019, 06:08 AM
RE: Validity question - by josh987654321 - 09-30-2019, 06:17 AM
RE: Validity question - by tonyjohnston1970 - 09-30-2019, 11:44 AM
RE: Validity question - by Birdie - 09-30-2019, 11:51 AM
RE: Validity question - by tonyjohnston1970 - 09-30-2019, 12:16 PM



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