Salvation through confusion?
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(10-02-2019, 08:35 AM)Paul Wrote:
(10-02-2019, 06:23 AM)Markie Boy Wrote: Can people be saved without being baptized - Yes, the thief on the cross was.

That was before the New Covenant, which hadn't started yet. Baptism wasn't required.

Actually Christ had already stated baptism was required for salvation prior to being crucified. To better understand why the thief on the cross was saved just look to St Thomas Aquinas Summa Theologica Third Part Question 66 which defines Form and Matter for Baptism requirements:

Form:
   (Question: 66 Article 5) I baptize thee in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost"
Matter:
   (Question 66 Articles 3,4)    Water
   (Question 66 Articles 12)     Desire
   (Question 66 Articles 11,12) Blood

The thief received Baptism because he 'desired' to be baptized, or through his 'blood'. Martyrs who die in the belief of and name of Christ without formal water baptism fit this 'blood' Matter requirement.
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Messages In This Thread
Salvation through confusion? - by LionHippo - 10-01-2019, 10:46 PM
RE: Salvation through confusion? - by Markie Boy - 10-02-2019, 06:23 AM
RE: Salvation through confusion? - by Paul - 10-02-2019, 08:35 AM
RE: Salvation through confusion? - by SeekSalvation - 10-03-2019, 01:12 PM
RE: Salvation through confusion? - by Paul - 10-03-2019, 02:27 PM
RE: Salvation through confusion? - by Paul - 10-03-2019, 07:44 PM
RE: Salvation through confusion? - by MaryTN - 10-02-2019, 02:21 PM
RE: Salvation through confusion? - by 1Faith - 10-02-2019, 04:57 PM
RE: Salvation through confusion? - by Augustinian - 10-03-2019, 08:32 PM



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