The Situation In Chile
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The radical left wing led protesters who set two police women on fire 2 days ago have now attacked and looted a Catholic Church in Santiago https://www.foxnews.com/world/chilean-va...-religious
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More photos of what was done https://www.dailyherald.com/article/2019...311089826/
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(11-08-2019, 09:41 PM)Eric F Wrote: More photos of what was done https://www.dailyherald.com/article/2019...311089826/

A friend of mine who lives in Chile has been sending me photos of the destruction and looting wrought by the rioters in his city.  He was extremely upset about the cathedral coming under attack.  He mentioned that the people need bishops, as the country is now entirely without a single bishop due to the recent resignations accepted by Pope Francis.
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As shown in the OP, the protestors are prone to violence.  However, both the police (carabineros) and the military, when they were for a short span deployed, were each given stand-down orders.  In other words, neither the police nor the military have been given any means by which to stop the rioters/protestors (i.e., they can't use their weapons).  This is true even in the situation shown in the OP where the police were attacked by Molotov Cocktails; the police did not respond in kind.  If they did, they would be immediately attacked by the Instituto Nacional Derechos Humanos (National Institute of Human Rights), a Marxist organization which decries any violence by the police against the protestors, but is eerily silent when the police are attacked by the same.  In that regard, the police are becoming overwhelmed, stressed out and at wits end.  In so doing, criminality in the form of theft/arson has skyrocketed, as there are no resources to address such matters.  

This is all a concerted effort by the Marxists, whose ultimate short-term goal appears to be the removal of president Piñera, despite him having taken office in only March of last year.  In that regard, it should be noted that since Pinochet left office in 1990, the Chilean presidency has been held by far-left political parties in all years since, with the exception being Piñera's current office, and the one he held from 2010-2014.  In fact, between 2006-2010, and again in 2014-2018, Chile's president was Michelle Bachelet, a member of the Socialist Party of Chile (the same party of Salvador Allende).
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I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if there were CIA and IMF meddling in the affairs of Chile right now just like there are in Hong Kong, Venezuela,Ukraine and Ecuador.
Walk before God in simplicity, and not in subtleties of the mind. Simplicity brings faith; but subtle and intricate speculations bring conceit; and conceit brings withdrawal from God. -Saint Isaac of Syria, Directions on Spiritual Training


"It is impossible in human terms to exaggerate the importance of being in a church or chapel before the Blessed Sacrament as often and for as long as our duties and state of life allow. I very seldom repeat what I say. Let me repeat this sentence. It is impossible in human language to exaggerate the importance of being in a chapel or church before the Blessed Sacrament as often and for as long as our duties and state of life allow. That sentence is the talisman of the highest sanctity. "Father John Hardon
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(11-10-2019, 03:15 PM)formerbuddhist Wrote: I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if there were CIA... meddling in the affairs of Chile right now...

To turn S.America's most stable, pro-American country, from whom the U.S. purchases much of its copper and gets many a produce during winter months, into a destabilized, Marxist hell-hole?  

Um... sure.
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From Vox Cantoris...  Fascists/Communists/Socialists attack Church in Chile.

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(11-10-2019, 03:47 PM)Bonaventure Wrote:
(11-10-2019, 03:15 PM)formerbuddhist Wrote: I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if there were CIA... meddling in the affairs of Chile right now...

To turn S.America's most stable, pro-American country, from whom the U.S. purchases much of its copper and gets many a produce during winter months, into a destabilized, Marxist hell-hole?  

Um... sure.
Marxism and Capitalism are two sides of the same coin. The old cold war canard of Capitalism vs. Communism was a false dialectic and it still is today. Sure there are marxist groups but they are tools used by the global financial elite to help destabilize countries and make them more dependent on "aid" that comes with a price- corporate and financial control over every part of their economy.   

 Big US companies helped build the USSR. The powers that be don't care who runs a country be they Maoist,Fascist or Libertarian as long as they control the economy and can extract its resources.  That's been the name of the game for decades.  Not sure why that would change now. If you dig deeper into Chile I'm confident you'd find some sort of shadowy connection between US corporate interests, the CIA and big bankers.  

Read Anthony Sutton's excellent books on the topic.  America has a vicious history of meddling in the affairs of other countries, the most recent being Venezuela, Ukraine,Syria, and the CIA backed "protests" in Hong Kong. As long as America can keep its power and money it doesn't care who it destroys or who it uses to get what it wants.  It pains me to say this as an American but my reading of history and modern geopolitics leaves me no other options.
Walk before God in simplicity, and not in subtleties of the mind. Simplicity brings faith; but subtle and intricate speculations bring conceit; and conceit brings withdrawal from God. -Saint Isaac of Syria, Directions on Spiritual Training


"It is impossible in human terms to exaggerate the importance of being in a church or chapel before the Blessed Sacrament as often and for as long as our duties and state of life allow. I very seldom repeat what I say. Let me repeat this sentence. It is impossible in human language to exaggerate the importance of being in a chapel or church before the Blessed Sacrament as often and for as long as our duties and state of life allow. That sentence is the talisman of the highest sanctity. "Father John Hardon
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(11-10-2019, 04:40 PM)formerbuddhist Wrote: If you dig deeper into Chile I'm confident you'd find some sort of shadowy connection between US corporate interests, the CIA and big bankers.  

One does not have to dig very deep to understand that.  What you fail to see, though, is that not everything has to be tied to the CIA and/or U.S. corporate interests. I just pointed out how what's going in Chile is actually against U.S. corporate interests, but you simply ignore the glaringly obvious.  

What's going in Hong Kong is the entire opposite of what is going on in Chile.  The protestors in Hong Kong are fighting against a repressive ChiComm regime, while the protestors in Chile are trying to sweep in a ChiComm-type Marxist regime.  They are polar opposites.
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In 3 decades, Chile has gone from having 64 pct of it's population living below the poverty line to just 9 pct in 2019, yet now they say the system is broken, and in order to bring about much needed social change it is has become necessary to ransack churches, torch buses, destroy train stations and loot shopping malls. Major Western news sources like the New York Times, BBC keep running articles about human rights abuses and police brutality, without much criticism of the protesters who are committing wanton acts of destruction around the country. In more than half the fatalities, the rioters themselves were directly responsible due to firebombing buildings. Chilean police have been attacked with bricks, slingshots, metal bars, and Molotov cocktails and have suffered numerous injuries, and yet we hear mainly about the injuries sustained by the confrontational protesters who include  Anarchists (ANTIFA is involved) Communists, Socialists, militant LGBT supporters and Radical Feminists. In most cities in the US, the rioters who set the two police women on fire would have been justifiably shot dead.
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