Do we have to listen to the Pope?
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Can you all set me straight? Some Catholics insist that the pope 'only' has spoken 'ex cathedra' on the validity of the Immaculate Conception and the Assumption of Mary. Others broaden the papal power to 'faith and morals' in such a broad way that it appears to take in a lot more dictates.

I have read traditional Catholics assert the first position, but others who insist that the Petrine power verifies far more than these two doctrines. I also get confused: if this was issued in 1870-ish as part of the (unfinished) Vatican I, is it retroactively declaring papal infallibility? And is this infallible judgement extended to include decisions by the collective episcopate as the Spirit moves this part of the Mystical Body, that's declared in union with the informed wisdom of a Bishop of Rome? I'm reading Bp. Tissot's big bio of Abp. Lefebvre and these issues are being debated by clerics and bishops as very germane to (post)V2. I confess being raised in that era, I never got a clear grasp on this subtle and complex topic.
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RE: Do we have to listen to the Pope? - by Zedta - 01-06-2020, 07:39 PM
RE: Do we have to listen to the Pope? - by jack89 - 01-07-2020, 10:20 PM
RE: Do we have to listen to the Pope? - by Paul - 01-07-2020, 10:43 PM
RE: Do we have to listen to the Pope? - by jack89 - 01-07-2020, 11:39 PM
RE: Do we have to listen to the Pope? - by Paul - 01-08-2020, 12:33 AM
RE: Do we have to listen to the Pope? - by Paul - 01-08-2020, 02:11 AM
RE: Do we have to listen to the Pope? - by Paul - 01-08-2020, 03:25 AM
RE: Do we have to listen to the Pope? - by Paul - 01-09-2020, 12:39 AM
RE: Do we have to listen to the Pope? - by Paul - 01-10-2020, 02:07 PM
RE: Do we have to listen to the Pope? - by Fionnchu - 01-08-2020, 09:16 PM
RE: Do we have to listen to the Pope? - by jack89 - 01-13-2020, 01:10 PM



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