Do we have to listen to the Pope?
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(01-08-2020, 03:05 AM)Missbeliever Wrote:
(01-08-2020, 02:00 AM)jovan66102 Wrote:
(01-08-2020, 01:47 AM)Missbeliever Wrote: He's speaking as Pope, not off the cuff in some unrecorded interview, not in some private journal somewhere, he is intending to lead Catholics and the world down this road.

And as has been pointed out in this thread and elsewhere, he IS NOT SPEAKING EX CATHEDRA IN ANY WAY THAT REQUIRES US TO BELIEVE. We have had heretic Popes before and the Church has survived. The One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church, outside which their is no salvation, will survive Popes who are immoral (the Pornocracy and the Renaissance), Popes who are heretics (John XXII and Francis come to mind), and Popes who are more interested in the world than in saving souls (again, some of the Renaissance Popes and Francis).  The Church will always remain and those who leave it, leave it at the peril of their immortal souls!

I will be praying for you.
Then why is he the leader? Is his only position to make ex cathedra statements?
On the practical side, I don't understand why there is a pope at all if only his ex cathedra statements have to be listened to. What is  his role then, what is he supposed to do?
 
Popes do more than make the extremely rare ex cathedra statements. They're Bishops of Rome, heads of state, elevators of Bishops and cardinals, in charge of the curia with its tribunals, councils, and congregations, etc.
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RE: Do we have to listen to the Pope? - by Zedta - 01-06-2020, 07:39 PM
RE: Do we have to listen to the Pope? - by jack89 - 01-07-2020, 10:20 PM
RE: Do we have to listen to the Pope? - by Paul - 01-07-2020, 10:43 PM
RE: Do we have to listen to the Pope? - by jack89 - 01-07-2020, 11:39 PM
RE: Do we have to listen to the Pope? - by Paul - 01-08-2020, 12:33 AM
RE: Do we have to listen to the Pope? - by Paul - 01-08-2020, 02:11 AM
RE: Do we have to listen to the Pope? - by Paul - 01-08-2020, 03:25 AM
RE: Do we have to listen to the Pope? - by VoxClamantis - 01-10-2020, 10:26 PM
RE: Do we have to listen to the Pope? - by Paul - 01-09-2020, 12:39 AM
RE: Do we have to listen to the Pope? - by Paul - 01-10-2020, 02:07 PM
RE: Do we have to listen to the Pope? - by jack89 - 01-13-2020, 01:10 PM



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