Do we have to listen to the Pope?
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(01-11-2020, 01:54 AM)Missbeliever Wrote: I didn't even know Benevacantists existed! 
So much I don't know.
Is there a Church document that says it is okay to ignore or disregard everything the pope does or says except for ex cathedra statements?
And what if Jane genuinely thinks the pope is a heretic while Sally genuinely thinks he's not and follows his example and actions and embraces pagan and humanistic ideas thinking the church is progressing and developing their doctrine as time goes on, who are we to judge the pope? How do we know our decision to reject popes decisions and ideas is okay? How do we know that maybe these ideas are not just developments?

Yes they exist and so do sedevacantists, but the problem with going into those is that you are now starting down the path where you easily risk having your teachers be average men or women with little to no theological training, and that can set you down some very strange paths.  However, remaining faithful to the current pontificate and trying to square these round pegs can also leads you down some equally screwy roads. 

There are sedevacantists who believe that since there is no pope and has not been a pope since Pius XII have decided to get their friends together and elect a layman to be "pope", this is where you get the goofy antipope Michael in Kansas.  However those faithful to Francis as being the Pope are now questioning the validity of Vatican I, an absurd and heretical position.  Again, let this crisis not be the test of your faith!

As it has been repeated by MacPasquale, Father Chad Ripperger's book on Magisterial Authority really should be on your reading list and costs the same as a trip to McDonald's or Starbuck's.  Read it and try and get answers there, if you don't like to read, then there are links on YT








Again as it has been stressed, let this should not be the barometer of your faith.  Focus on the Sacraments and receiving grace and accept that this is a crisis where it's father against son, daughter against mother, brother against brother.  We are in a crisis and it will be God who will sort it out.  We as laymen will not be the ones to reform the Church. Merely it may be the sons we rear and teach who go on to become priests and bishops who will be the men to reform.  Our duties as laymen are to remain faithful to the Church and become holy.  These questions regarding this papacy while we cannot ignore them (because we are not stupid), should not so greatly trouble our faith that we seek salvation in the easing of our consciences, as opposed to receiving the Sacraments and staying near to Our Lord who is truly present in the Holy Eucharist.
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RE: Do we have to listen to the Pope? - by Zedta - 01-06-2020, 07:39 PM
RE: Do we have to listen to the Pope? - by jack89 - 01-07-2020, 10:20 PM
RE: Do we have to listen to the Pope? - by Paul - 01-07-2020, 10:43 PM
RE: Do we have to listen to the Pope? - by jack89 - 01-07-2020, 11:39 PM
RE: Do we have to listen to the Pope? - by Paul - 01-08-2020, 12:33 AM
RE: Do we have to listen to the Pope? - by Paul - 01-08-2020, 02:11 AM
RE: Do we have to listen to the Pope? - by Paul - 01-08-2020, 03:25 AM
RE: Do we have to listen to the Pope? - by Paul - 01-09-2020, 12:39 AM
RE: Do we have to listen to the Pope? - by Paul - 01-10-2020, 02:07 PM
RE: Do we have to listen to the Pope? - by austenbosten - 01-11-2020, 02:27 PM
RE: Do we have to listen to the Pope? - by jack89 - 01-13-2020, 01:10 PM



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