Christopher Ferrara's take on the Corona Virus
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(03-21-2020, 10:56 PM)MagisterMusicae Wrote: I think Chris, however, should just stick to being a lawyer, rather than running his mouth about on every subject he can get his hands on.

Hear, Hear!

It seems Mr. Ferrara is better suited at polemics than actual lawyering, given all the time he spends writing on matters that have very little to do with his legal profession.
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(03-21-2020, 11:37 PM)jovan66102 Wrote:
(03-21-2020, 11:19 PM)Sacred Heart lover Wrote: Well, you have to take into consideration the fact that a vastly higher than normal amount of people with a slight cough or cold will be heading to the hospital thinking they've GOT IT.

And many hospitals are just sending people home unless they are having trouble breathing because there aren't enough beds available or test kits to check anyway.

A friend of my wife's is dying because it happened to him. By the time he had trouble breathing and the hospital admitted him, it was likely too late. He's intubated now, but they still don't know if he has it because of the turn around time on the test.


***ETA*** Just as I finished typing this, my wife walked out of her room and told me that her friend died awhile ago.

On the other hand, my middle son probably has it, but he's not even going to try to go to the hospital unless it gets worse, because he knows they'll just send him home.

Yes, of course, it makes things worse for those who truly have it.

I'm so sorry to hear about your wife's friend, Jovan.  :(  May God bless his soul and may eternal rest be granted unto him.

I'm just saying that the panic causes more problems, especially for older patients who are truly at risk.

Also, as immunity can be acquired for those who are not at such a high risk, just like for chickenpox and measles and other diseases, it may be best for folks to stay home until things become acute. 

If you get chickenpox or measles as an adult it's very deadly, but if you go to the ER as a young person with something like that you risk actually acquiring something like CV19 which could be worse.
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SHL, FYI, he died at KUMC on Rainbow Blvd. Be careful. All but one of our children and their children live in the Metro too.
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(03-21-2020, 11:19 PM)Sacred Heart lover Wrote: Well, you have to take into consideration the fact that a vastly higher than normal amount of people with a slight cough or cold will be heading to the hospital thinking they've GOT IT.

That's not entirely true.  As another poster said earlier, people with minor symptoms are turned away.  In California, hospitals can't even test everybody, so they only test people whose prognosis they think a test will actually help.

For example, Italy has 25,000 ICU beds, and they're more than full.  States like New York are in a similar situation; the federal government is even sending hospital ships to provide extra capacity.  In the UK, they're calling up thousands of retired nurses and healthcare professionals to help, who would be risking their own lives, given their age. In a lot of US hospitals, they're running out of masks and even regular drugs, because they can't get them from China anymore, due to production or import/export issues.

This is real folks.
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(03-22-2020, 12:40 AM)AllSeasons Wrote: That's not entirely true.  As another poster said earlier, people with minor symptoms are turned away.  In California, hospitals can't even test everybody, so they only test people whose prognosis they think a test will actually help.

For example, Italy has 25,000 ICU beds, and they're more than full.  States like New York are in a similar situation; the federal government is even sending hospital ships to provide extra capacity.  In the UK, they're calling up thousands of retired nurses and healthcare professionals to help, who would be risking their own lives, given their age.  In a lot of US hospitals, they're running out of masks and even regular drugs, because they can't get them from China anymore, due to production or import/export issues.

This is real folks.


No one is saying it isn't REAL or that hospitals aren't in a crisis.

What some are saying is that the tests are not even claimed by the experts to be reliable and that while yes you will be turned away, you will have to wait for a long time in a waiting room to be accurately diagnosed especially when so many are presenting themselves with basic flu, cold or spring allergy symptoms, all of which can cause pneumonia especially in the elderly just like CV19.

Also the short staffing is largely due to the fact that schools and daycares are shut down.  This means that somebody has to stay home and take care of the children.  Nurses are largely working moms or even dads who have to take time off to care for their children.

This downturn in the workforce also accounts for the lack of supplies to meet the demand of many products in various markets around the globe.

There are many factors that have to be taken into consideration but those factors don't invite as many clicks for selling advertising dollars as the fear porn headlines.

Bringing up those factors does not mean someone is ignoring the crisis or is indifferent to the suffering that's occurring.

We know from numerous accounts in recent history that the "facts" the MSM reports or what the politicos spout are at least half of the time egregious lies in order to push their agenda.

Therefore we have to continuously consider what their agenda and motivations are and take into account the stats they are not reporting.
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Here another article, citing an actual expert, who estimates the death rate between 0.05% and 1.0%:

MARCH 18TH, 2020 Stanford Professor: Data Indicates We’re Severely Overreacting To Coronavirus (Source: Daily Wire)

(Again: I just want to share dissenting voices. In times like this, we have to listen to both sides).
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0.5% is 1,641,197 people dead. 1.0% is 3,282,395. Doesn't sound at all comforting to me. 
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(03-22-2020, 01:57 AM)jovan66102 Wrote: 0.5% is 1,641,197 people dead. 1.0% is 3,282,395. Doesn't sound at all comforting to me. 


There is nothing comforting about a pandemic no matter what the numbers turn out to be.

There's even more discomfort, however, from a global depression where 50% of the workforce lose their jobs due to hyped-up fear from dubious stats.

We have nothing to fear but fear itself.---FDR
Except for souls lost by a totalitarian government takeover.---SHL


ETA:  And fear ye not them that kill the body, and are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him that can destroy both soul and body in hell.  Matt 10:28
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I'm going to share something here from a secular writer-- Frank Herbert --who as far as I can gather from his writings was certainly no friend of religion but nonetheless wrote something in his book "Dune" which I think is appropriate given the present circumstances:


"Fear is the mind killer".


(And no, I don't think COVID-19 is a hoax, but I do think we need to keep things in perspective, and remember that as Christians, we are called to never give in to despair or to lose sight of He Who is Eternal Hope, Jesus the Christ).
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