The Church Visible
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(04-02-2020, 04:36 PM)formerbuddhist Wrote: I sort of disagree.  I don't think bishops or jurisdiction are absolutely necessary even if that's the ideal.  Where does "jurisdiction" come from anyway?  It's a legalistic fiction.  

 The Church exists wherever there are faithful gathered together, or if you're alone then wherever you are if you keep Christ in your heart.  In the best case scenario you'll have a bishop with real faith,  a chapel of some kind,a priest and some faithful but many times throughout history that was not the case for people on the hinterlands or in times of mass apostasy and chaos. It's apparently not the case today in many modern towns or nations.  

 The best modern exponent of my views on ecclesiology are those of Dr. Matthew Raphael Johnson or Old Believers so take what I say with a grain of salt, as an eccentric.  Over the years I've come to believe this VERY strongly and intuitively.  

Wherever two or three are gathered in my name there I am in the midst of them... I even look at the "two or three" as the invisible communion of saints or even the various birds and animals if you're the only person since everything in the world is in some way created and sustained and gathered through the Logos who is Christ.

This may or may not be a quibble, but I don't know in what sense you mean "legal fiction." In its normal sense as a legal term, a claim of jurisdiction would not be a legal fiction.
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The Church Visible - by Sacred Heart lover - 04-01-2020, 11:23 PM
RE: The Church Visible - by Augustinian - 04-01-2020, 11:38 PM
RE: The Church Visible - by 19405 - 04-02-2020, 01:44 PM
RE: The Church Visible - by Credidi Propter - 04-02-2020, 03:43 PM
RE: The Church Visible - by Adventus - 04-02-2020, 04:49 PM
RE: The Church Visible - by 19405 - 04-02-2020, 04:58 PM
RE: The Church Visible - by MacPasquale - 04-01-2020, 11:53 PM
RE: The Church Visible - by formerbuddhist - 04-02-2020, 04:36 PM
RE: The Church Visible - by Adventus - 04-02-2020, 04:52 PM
RE: The Church Visible - by 19405 - 04-02-2020, 04:59 PM
RE: The Church Visible - by Augustinian - 04-02-2020, 05:54 PM
RE: The Church Visible - by MagisterMusicae - 04-02-2020, 07:38 PM
RE: The Church Visible - by Augustinian - 04-02-2020, 07:55 PM
RE: The Church Visible - by 19405 - 04-03-2020, 07:31 AM
RE: The Church Visible - by Markie Boy - 04-03-2020, 08:48 AM
RE: The Church Visible - by piscis - 04-03-2020, 03:22 PM
RE: The Church Visible - by MagisterMusicae - 04-03-2020, 04:07 PM
RE: The Church Visible - by Sacred Heart lover - 04-03-2020, 05:07 PM



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