Primacy of conscience and following the Pope
(06-07-2020, 11:48 AM)Augustinian Wrote: I've returned to the book the Occult Renaissance Church of Rome lately, and the thesis of the book is that the current issues we've seen arise from Vatican II have been merely the public unveiling of a serious parasitical occultism that has been present in the hierarchy since the Renaissance. Mind you, the author, Michael Hoffman II, is a practicing and faithful Catholic, he's not a sedevacantist or part of some pseudo-Catholic sect. But he does propose an interesting thesis behind why things have gotten as bad as they are, and how these issues have been hidden from view since the Renaissance.

Regarding the infighting over the papacy, I have this excerpt to share (take it as you will):

Quote:The usury, magic and paganism which captured the Vatican in the era under examination [the Renaissance] is vigorously denied by true believers who simply will not allow themselves to countenance it. They choose delusion over truth and call themselves followers of the world's greatest truth teller. This bipolar mentality is of enormous utility to the dark forces under study. "Traditional" Catholic Bishop Richard Williamson wrote in his column, Eleison Comments, of April 5, 2014, titled "Canonizations Unreal":

"The 'canonization' if two Conciliar Popes, John XXIII and John-Paul II, is scheduled for the last Sunday of this month, and many believing Catholics are scared stiff. They know that the Conciliar popes have been (objective) destroyers of the Church. They know that the Church holds canonizations to be infallible. Are they going to be forced to believe that John XXIII and John-Paul II are Saints? It boggles the mind. The Archbishop (Marcel Lefebvre) said that like the mass of modern men, the Conciliar Popes do not believe in any truth being stable. For instance John-Paul II's formation was based on truth evolving, moving with the times, progressing with the advance of science, etc. Truth never being fixed is the reason why in 1988 John-Paul II condemned the SSPX (Society of St. Pius X) Episcopal Consecrations, because they sprang from a fixed and not living or moving idea of Catholic Tradition. For indeed Catholics hold, for example, every word in the Credo to be unchangeable, because the words have been hammered out over the ages to express as perfectly as possible the unchanging truths of the Faith, and these words have been infallibly defined by the Church's popes and Councils."
Nevertheless, "The vigilance and the pastoral solicitude of the Roman Pontiff...according to the duties of his office, are principally and above all manifested in maintaining and conversing the unity and integrity of the Catholic faith, without which it is impossible to please God..."

The "traditional" Catholic writer dares to use his conscience and private judgment to disclaim the judgment of the Apostolic See which is to be disclaimed by no one. Nor can it be judged.

"Traditional" Catholics quote Vatican Council I and omit a key sentence from its decree. Here it is: "...the See of St. Peter always remains unimpaired by any error..." We know of "traditional" Catholics who revel in this astonishing, "infallible" statement and at one time quoted it often, but now, not quite as often. The late twentieth and twenty-first century popes view these "traditional" and "conservative" Catholics as ignoramuses sadly in need of initiation into the hidden verities of the Church, as understood by the pontiff and the hierarchy, in all secrecy.

Imagine what an inside joke it must be in Rome when the "traditional" Catholics come calling and boldly declare that, when it comes to Judaism, they want the Church returned to the way it was before Vatican II. "Guys," the cardinals and clerics are thinking, "what you wish for is now, and has been, for five long centuries. The only difference being that we went public with it in 1965."

The Second Vatican Council was the culmination of Renaissance popery. The gnosis of Renaissance popes is reflected in the theology and actions of modern Popes Paul VI, John Paul II, Benedict XVI and Francis. The Roman Church in the Renaissance did not have a "vacant see." All of the pontiffs who reigned (with the exception of the Avignon interregnum), were incontrovertibly popes and some of those popes approved the overthrow of Catholic dogma that had been held by all the Church since the first century A.D. The others who did not overthrow it condoned the revolution by the fact that they did not restore the dogma. Those popes were not just material heretics, they were formal ones.

The "Conservative" and "traditional Catholic" movement as now constituted is doomed to failure because the post-Renaissance popes of Rome and their hierarchies will not be taught doctrine and history by "traditionalist" cowans, dupes and goyim. The post-Renaissance popes and their hierarchies possess the key to a mystery of history which the "traditional" Catholics do not: the "traditional Catholic" papacy and its administrative organs and instruments radically departed from the dogma of the Church, beginning around the last decades of the fifteenth century. The magisterial dogmas that were tossed away were never restored. For five hundred years the three Traditions of the Renaissance Church of Rome have been: 1. Judaism and the occult; 2. Lying and deceit; and 3. The root of evil itself--the legalization of the love of money. [usury] 
When "traditional" Catholics appeal for a restoration of tradition, what can be the reaction of the contemporary Vatican's bishops, cardinals and pope, other than mirth and mockery? If one desires 500 years of Catholic tradition, then look to the Second Vatican Council and you will find the culmination of five hundred years of Renaissance occult Catholic tradition, contrasted with fifteen hundred years of Catholic Truth as taught by Jesus, the Apostles, the Fathers of the Early Church and most of the theologians of the Middle Ages.

-the Occult Renaissance Church of Rome by Michael Hoffman, pp. 43-46.

It's certainly plausible, and, from a providential standpoint, would explain why Our Lady warned us of the corruption of the Church as early as the 16th century through Our Lady of Good Success. Perhaps due to the deep-seated, irreversible corruption of the Church is why the next chastisement will be so severe.

I offer this merely as an alternative perspective outside of the typical rallying-points of simple Masonry, Communism, and Globalism we see in trad circles.

I don't have any specific comments on Mr. Hoffman's thesis but I am convinced at the "Spirit of Vatican II" didn't originate at Vatican II (thus it is a misnomer).  The Church didn't go from traditional and faithful in 1962 to the clown Masses, ecumenism, and religious indifferentism that would seem to sweep the Church by the early 1970's.  The early Modernists that St. Pius X beat back didn't come from nowhere.  All of this has been building up for a very long time, perhaps for centuries now.  The Devil plays the long game.
"For the true friends of the people are neither revolutionaries nor innovators, but traditionalists."
- Pope St. Pius X

"For there shall be a time, when they will not endure sound doctrine; but, according to their own desires, they will heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears: And will indeed turn away their hearing from the truth, but will be turned unto fables."
- 2 Timothy 4:3-4

"Therefore God shall send them the operation of error, to believe lying: That all may be judged who have not believed the truth, but have consented to iniquity."
- 2 Thessalonians 2:11-12
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