Is it ever OK to attend a Novus Ordo Mass?
(11-28-2020, 02:57 PM)Paul Wrote:
(11-28-2020, 01:57 PM)NSMSSS Wrote: Correct, no one should ever knowingly and willingly participate in a sacrilege.  The question is when does the Mass become a sacrilege?  At that point, the Mass would also become invalid, wouldn't it?

No, it wouldn't. 'Valid' means that there's a consecration of the bread and wine and the Sacrifice is offered. The priest could do all sorts of other things during Mass to make a mockery of it, including dressing as a clown, but that wouldn't invalidate the Mass.

This is precisely why I asked Pandora about this.

A Black Mass (provided it's actually confecting the Sacrament, and not just using a pre-consecrated host), is a valid Mass. Obviously scandalous, a sacrilege and to be avoided.

This means that validity is not the criteria for whether a Mass could be, or must be attended.

If there is a point at which a Mass could become a sacrilege, though, and it is not well-defined, or authoritatively defined, then it seems that a priest who is well-studied in moral theology, unless there is some contrary teaching, could make the determination that the changes which produced the Novus Ordo Mass make it into a sacrilege and so it must be avoided if that is understood. He could be wrong in that, but then the argument is a theological one, and so is a bit more complex than the simplistic rejoinders and opinion based on hearsay that you, NSMSSS, seem to like to offer.

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RE: Is it ever OK to attend a Novus Ordo Mass? - by MagisterMusicae - 11-29-2020, 12:34 AM

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