Amish Catholics?
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Is there an Amish Catholic community or something like it?

The government seems to leave the Amish alone, and with the way this country is inevitable headed under the communist regime, getting off the grid and living far away from any government overreach seems like the best option if one can’t flee the country.
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I doubt they'll leave even the Amish alone for long. Independence from the State is not an option, especially they way things are headed.
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The push is for socialism.  Socialism requires that the state have authoritarian control.  Independence from strict state control would be unacceptable.
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There are a couple Amish groups that have converted to Eastern Orthodoxy.  I've never heard any that have become Catholic.  I imagine they are culturally-opposed to even considering Catholicism.  There is an independent Eastern Catholic church in my old hometown that had some Amish people who were working on installing a new roof for the church, and they had to stop in the middle of the job because their bishop ordered them to cease helping Catholics.
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(01-20-2021, 12:26 PM)Melkite Wrote: I've never heard any that have become Catholic.  I imagine they are culturally-opposed to even considering Catholicism. 

I live near a very large community of Amish, and the idea of Catholic Amish seemed amusing to me.  There are none.  Not here anyways. There are a couple churches and a couple Marian shrines in their area but they don't go there.

The idea of forming rural or semi-rural communities of traditional Catholics is an appealing one to me.  I'd do it.  Am considering doing it.
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I think it would depend on finding land - cheap - and a pastor willing to participate in the endeavor.
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The Community of the Beatitudes welcomes lay members.  In the US, there is a community in Denver.
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(01-20-2021, 01:32 PM)Fontevrault Wrote: I think it would depend on finding land - cheap - and a pastor willing to participate in the endeavor.

Those conditions may already exist.  The FSSP runs quite a few semi-rural small town and rural parishes.
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(01-20-2021, 02:03 PM)Evangelium Wrote: The Community of the Beatitudes welcomes lay members.  In the US, there is a community in Denver.

The Community publicly professes false and quasi-heretical/apostotic notions about the Jewish religion, suggesting that the Old Covenant is still binding, and that the Jews remain the chosen people. That is a direct rejection of Jesus Christ

For instance, their website says, "The Community, seized by an eschatological tension in the outpouring of the Holy Spirit, longs for a common Passover with Israel and for the glorious manifestation of the Lamb who will establish us in the final and everlasting Shabbat." (https://beatitudes.org/en/our-spirituali...of-israel/)

On the other hand the Catholic teaching is well expressed in St Paul's explanation to the Romans in which he clearly says that the (religious) Jews, or natural branches of the tree, "because of unbelief they were broken off." (Rm 11.20), "and they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again."(Rm 11.23). The text could not be more clear that the Old Covenant was fulfilled and so its practice became, as St Thomas Aquinas says, "mortifera" (bringing of death), and only rejection of this Old Covenant and acceptance of the New will have those that practiced the Jewish religion grafted in ... as Catholics (who renounce their errors.

Other similar traditional liturgical praxis of the Church also confirms this. The Act of Consecration of the Human Race to the Sacred Heart, composed by Leo XIII and ordered to be said on the Feast of Christ the King by Pius XI (and given a plenary indulgence), prays for those who still practice the false Jewish religion, "Turn Thine eyes of mercy towards the children of the race, once Thy chosen people: of old they called down upon themselves the Blood of the Savior; may it now descend upon them a laver of redemption and of life."

Similarly, the traditional Good Friday prayer for those still burdened with the practice of the false Jewish religion, asks "Let us pray also for the faithless Jews: that Almighty God may remove the veil from their hearts [2 Cor 3.13–16]; so that they too may acknowledge Jesus Christ our Lord : Almighty and eternal God, who dost not exclude from thy mercy even Jewish faithlessness: hear our prayers, which we offer for the blindness of that people; that acknowledging the light of thy Truth, which is Christ, they may be delivered from their darkness. Through the same our Lord Jesus Christ, who liveth and reigneth with thee in the unity of the Holy Spirit, God, for ever and ever. Amen."

These may be good people in this "Community of the Beatitudes", of that I have little doubt, but they do not profess the Catholic teaching on this matter, and so risk apostasy by denying Jesus Christ in this way.
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(01-20-2021, 11:49 AM)SacraCor714 Wrote: Is there an Amish Catholic community or something like it?

The government seems to leave the Amish alone, and with the way this country is inevitable headed under the communist regime, getting off the grid and living far away from any government overreach seems like the best option if one can’t flee the country.

A genuine Communist dictatorship won't leave anyone alone.  If that happens, your options are to flee the country or live under Communist rule (with all that entails).  Setting that scenario aside, an aggressive secular-left regime (which is what I see arising in our country now) will make life unpleasant in many ways but can't completely override the rule of law.  America is more likely to end up like modern France than modern Venezuela.  All the legal protections that apply to the Amish would also apply to non-Amish religious groups.  You're free to move to a rural area, homeschool your kids, and live a fairly simple lifestyle, if that is what you want.

(01-20-2021, 12:26 PM)Melkite Wrote: There are a couple Amish groups that have converted to Eastern Orthodoxy.  I've never heard any that have become Catholic.  I imagine they are culturally-opposed to even considering Catholicism.  There is an independent Eastern Catholic church in my old hometown that had some Amish people who were working on installing a new roof for the church, and they had to stop in the middle of the job because their bishop ordered them to cease helping Catholics.

I've heard more than a few horror stories about the Amish.  They're not so pleasant when you dig more deeply into their communities.  I've never really understood the kind of awe they seem to inspire in so many people.  I suppose some are impressed with their minimal use of modern technologies.  That makes some sense, considering how many people can't go without their smartphone and social media accounts for any period of time.
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