Rod Dreher's NeverTrumpism
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Well, I've never been a real fan of so-called CONservatives like Rod Dreher who make their money by posting inane articles on whig-moderate sites posing as conservatives but now he's pretty much lost his credibility to me. Interestingly Rod Dreher reminds of Dr. Taylor Marshall in certain ways i.e. find your niche write yourself into the intellectual shallows and stay there because you make lots of money and it's a familiar space with lots of advertising.  His type of CONservatism is a dying breed in American political life. Patriotic millenials are becoming Libertarian and rediscovering American freedom and tradition, while Un-patriotic Millenials are all becoming Socialists. The Republican'ts and Demogogues are dead as far as my generation is concerned. 

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/
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None of these Catholic ecelebs care about truth, just filling their pockets off of contrived controversies.
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(02-14-2021, 10:51 PM)Augustinian Wrote: None of these Catholic ecelebs care about truth, just filling their pockets off of contrived controversies.

I've grown increasingly disillusioned with "celebrity" online Catholic voices over the past few years.  The sad reality is, in order to remain in operation and post content on a regular basis, money has to be made.  This makes the online Catholic personalities dependent on their revenue streams coming in, and so I think ethical lapses can be much more likely as they compete in the intense online market for dedicated (i.e. donating) followers to support their work.  I don't think they're so cynical as to only care about the cash flow (like some tacky televangelist from the '80s) but the waters get muddied.  One example is the Pachamama incident and Taylor Marshall financing the just tossing of those idols into the Tiber, only to break the story without any mention that he was the one largely responsible for the "idol-smashing" action.
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(02-14-2021, 11:14 PM)SeekerofChrist Wrote:
(02-14-2021, 10:51 PM)Augustinian Wrote: None of these Catholic ecelebs care about truth, just filling their pockets off of contrived controversies.

I've grown increasingly disillusioned with "celebrity" online Catholic voices over the past few years.  The sad reality is, in order to remain in operation and post content on a regular basis, money has to be made.  This makes the online Catholic personalities dependent on their revenue streams coming in, and so I think ethical lapses can be much more likely as they compete in the intense online market for dedicated (i.e. donating) followers to support their work.  I don't think they're so cynical as to only care about the cash flow (like some tacky televangelist from the '80s) but the waters get muddied.  One example is the Pachamama incident and Taylor Marshall financing the just tossing of those idols into the Tiber, only to break the story without any mention that he was the one largely responsible for the "idol-smashing" action.
I became completely disillusioned with him once I learned about that and his connections to Opus Dei.
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Put not your trust in princes: In the children of men, in whom there is no salvation. - Ps. 145:2-3

"For there shall be a time, when they will not endure sound doctrine; but, according to their own desires, they will heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears: And will indeed turn away their hearing from the truth, but will be turned unto fables." - 2 Timothy 4:3-4
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(02-14-2021, 11:14 PM)SeekerofChrist Wrote: I've grown increasingly disillusioned with "celebrity" online Catholic voices over the past few years.  The sad reality is, in order to remain in operation and post content on a regular basis, money has to be made.  This makes the online Catholic personalities dependent on their revenue streams coming in, and so I think ethical lapses can be much more likely as they compete in the intense online market for dedicated (i.e. donating) followers to support their work.  I don't think they're so cynical as to only care about the cash flow (like some tacky televangelist from the '80s) but the waters get muddied.  
It really is just the nature of the beast(no pun intended), there's no perfect way to do these things.  

Honestly, I don't know if viewer donation is the worst thing in the world.  It has massive drawbacks, but the content creator is not going to be as tightly chained to an ideological narrative as something funded by and dependent on a larger sponsor(which is a big factor in why the MSM and some of the larger political youtube channels are the way they are).  But with the donor/standard youtube algorithm setup you will end up with 2 hour videos with titles like "How We Know Cardinal Siri Accidentally Ate The Third Secret", "An Exorcist on the Demonic Origins of Social Distancing", and "Tasteless Burgers: The Great Reset and You".

Some cath-ecelebs do appear to be more cynical than others.
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Yeah I'm glad others are getting over the Steve Skojec's, Rod Dreher (who was always a milquetoast IMO), and Taylor Marshall's. Of course Boomers love these guys because they (Boomers) are so lacking in information on what's going on and are now fed up with Francis's nonsense.

I will say I disagree with the OT. The Millenials and Zoomers are definitely not becoming more Libertarian, they are becoming quite anti-Libertarian. Millenials and Zoomers didn't go for Trump because of his libertarian-leanings. You don't see Zoomers rushing over to listen to the Tom Woods podcast.
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Quote:I will say I disagree with the OT. The Millenials and Zoomers are definitely not becoming more Libertarian, they are becoming quite anti-Libertarian. Millenials and Zoomers didn't go for Trump because of his libertarian-leanings. You don't see Zoomers rushing over to listen to the Tom Woods podcast.


Allow me to clarify: based on my personal experience the conservative millenials I know (who are a minority) are becoming Libertarian (including myself who was never a Republican but voted ® due to Pro-life issues) while the vast majority of Millenials and Gen Zer's are all becoming Marxist-Socialist-Communists (this latter group includes my brother, please pray for his soul). 

My point is, the Republicans are finished in the minds and hearts of young Conservatives. The Republican Party betrayed President Trump, and have consistently fought against liberty and traditional American values. They are effectively the Modern Whig party unto which they succeeded. 

This two party system must give way. Our society is too bipolar to be one nation anymore.
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(02-17-2021, 12:59 AM)PilgrimMichelangelo Wrote: Allow me to clarify: based on my personal experience the conservative millenials I know (who are a minority) are becoming Libertarian (including myself who was never a Republican but voted ® due to Pro-life issues) while the vast majority of Millenials and Gen Zer's are all becoming Marxist-Socialist-Communists (this latter group includes my brother, please pray for his soul). 

My point is, the Republicans are finished in the minds and hearts of young Conservatives. The Republican Party betrayed President Trump, and have consistently fought against liberty and traditional American values. They are effectively the Modern Whig party unto which they succeeded. 

This two party system must give way. Our society is too bipolar to be one nation anymore.

I agree and I raise you that the global system must give way, but with the way things are I think a uniparty empire is in our future. China is far too pervasive to allow an implosion of the Republic into smaller successive republics and kingdoms.

To note I am not and never have been libertarian. I find it just as idealistic and ineffective as Marxism.
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(02-17-2021, 01:24 PM)austenbosten Wrote: To note I am not and never have been libertarian.  I find it just as idealistic and ineffective as Marxism.

Both of them are based on a false, non-Christian anthropology. They and many other forms of ideology, posit that given the right environment, man is inherently good, thus denying the Fall.
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(02-14-2021, 10:36 PM)PilgrimMichelangelo find your niche write yourself into the intellectual shallows and stay there because you make lots of money and it\s a familiar space with lots of advertising. Wrote: https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/
I stopped listening to TM about a year ago--he turned petty and predictable (As to his Opus Dei connection mentioned on this thread--can anyone fill us in with more? This is news to me.) One aspect that also discouraged me was his profiteering. One joins his St Thomas Institute online but cannot open the year's worth of videos except one a week. Therefore ensuring one pays for a full year. And no way to archive the content for one's offline study. This kind of niggling calculation seems to be untoward. And like Word on Fire, the cost of materials at some of these sites seems far beyond the pockets of many out there now having to cut back in "uncertain times." Compare with the Thomistic Institute from the Dominicans in Washington DC: quality resources, no begging or dunning, as an intelligently presented array...
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