Milo Turns a Corner
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(03-10-2021, 12:56 PM)VoxClamantis Wrote: No one here knows how much or how little Milo is tempted by anything, including his roommate.

I don't think anyone here has tried to say how much or how little he is tempted.  None-the-less, something like SSA functions like an addiction, and continuing to live with someone of the same-sex with whom he had a sexual relationship is high risk for relapse.  That's not judging him, either.  He might, or might not, have good reasons for why the roommate is still there.  Doesn't change the fact that sins of the flesh are very hard habits to break.  I'll continue to pray for him.
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Praise God- and many prayers for Milo. Not the biggest surprise, but a welcome one. 

Milo also says he'll be interviewing Fr. Calloway on his show, so that'll be interesting.
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(03-10-2021, 12:56 PM)VoxClamantis Wrote: No one here knows how much or how little Milo is tempted by anything, including his roommate.

True.  However, public sins call for public repentance.  Part of the issue with his "roommate" is that Milo publicly stated that his "roommate" was his sodomitical partner.  It would therefore seem that still living with this particular "roommate" is not a full public break and/or repentance from his past, and could continue to scandalize others?
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To complicate things further, that "roommate" is Milo's husband.
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(03-10-2021, 02:59 PM)Evangelium Wrote: To complicate things further, that "roommate" is Milo's husband.

Yup.

He's mentioned before that he'd likely consider going chaste if that relationship ended. 
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Dear Milo, Dude no need to apologize to every as 
whole out there as the line would be neverending
Oh, where are the snows of yesteryear!
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#17
Compared to who Milo was over a year ago where he flagrantly would show up with phallic-shaped water bottles...this is a definite improvement. If they can live chastely as brothers then all the more power to them 2 souls are saved. I share the same concern as others but the Church doesn't call for divorced and "re-married" couples to not part but live together as siblings.
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(03-10-2021, 02:26 PM)Bonaventure Wrote:
(03-10-2021, 12:56 PM)VoxClamantis Wrote: No one here knows how much or how little Milo is tempted by anything, including his roommate.

True.  However, public sins call for public repentance.  Part of the issue with his "roommate" is that Milo publicly stated that his "roommate" was his sodomitical partner.  It would therefore seem that still living with this particular "roommate" is not a full public break and/or repentance from his past, and could continue to scandalize others?

Who's it going to scandalize?  All the gays he just alienated by identifying as ex-gay?  All the straight married guys who have secretly wanted a live-in bunk buddy all their lives?  If they're able to live together chastely, there is no scandal.
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(03-11-2021, 08:48 AM)Melkite Wrote: Who's it going to scandalize?  All the gays he just alienated by identifying as ex-gay?  All the straight married guys who have secretly wanted a live-in bunk buddy all their lives?  If they're able to live together chastely, there is no scandal.

I have to imagine that if it was a male and female living together, most sound priests would advise against it. This, even knowing that these two were intending on living chastely. It does indirectly scandalize; even though it is not the intention to cause another to fall into sin. Understanding that one must not leave such a statement broad either; because one can apply this to numerous situations. The situation and nuances matter, but in this case, actively living with someone with whom there is a significant chance of not just you falling into sin but also causing others to fall it if they aren't disciplined to duplicate what you may be doing successfully. It ultimately can put many people in a near occasion of sin scenario. Particularly with matters of sexuality, the pull is immensely strong. Not a good idea.
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(03-11-2021, 08:48 AM)Melkite Wrote:
(03-10-2021, 02:26 PM)Bonaventure Wrote:
(03-10-2021, 12:56 PM)VoxClamantis Wrote: No one here knows how much or how little Milo is tempted by anything, including his roommate.

True.  However, public sins call for public repentance.  Part of the issue with his "roommate" is that Milo publicly stated that his "roommate" was his sodomitical partner.  It would therefore seem that still living with this particular "roommate" is not a full public break and/or repentance from his past, and could continue to scandalize others?

Who's it going to scandalize?  All the gays he just alienated by identifying as ex-gay?  All the straight married guys who have secretly wanted a live-in bunk buddy all their lives?  If they're able to live together chastely, there is no scandal.

Adventus has put it very nicely.  I'd add that even if one assumes they're living chastely, one is doing so knowing that they were formerly engaged in sin with each other.  And if one does make that charitable assumption, then another might assume that they're not.  Thus, an occasion for scandal.  Austenbosten made a good point, though.  Since they're legally married in the eyes of the state, ending that legal relationship could be a complicated matter.  Perhaps they are justified, despite the risk of scandal and sin, to live together chastely.  I'll charitably assume that is the case.  Still, continuing to live with someone that you loved enough to civilly marry is bound to be a major source of temptation.  I'll pray that Milo resists that temptation.  Despite his over-the-top flamboyance, I quickly took a liking to him, when I first heard of him in 2016.
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- Pope St. Pius X

"For there shall be a time, when they will not endure sound doctrine; but, according to their own desires, they will heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears: And will indeed turn away their hearing from the truth, but will be turned unto fables."
- 2 Timothy 4:3-4

"Therefore God shall send them the operation of error, to believe lying: That all may be judged who have not believed the truth, but have consented to iniquity."
- 2 Thessalonians 2:11-12
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