A Priest’s Moral Analysis of Vaccines
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(03-11-2021, 12:52 PM)Bonaventure Wrote:
(03-11-2021, 11:42 AM)SeekerofChrist Wrote: However, posting a short article that is freely available online, along with the link to the original source, probably isn't copyright infringement. 

False.  Unless you have permission or a license to do so, it is indeed copyright infringement.

Maybe and maybe not.  Courts sometimes find that using an entire work falls under fair use doctrine, and sometimes they don't.  There's no "definitely" or "indeed" in this situation.
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(03-11-2021, 12:55 PM)SeekerofChrist Wrote: Courts sometimes find that using an entire work falls under fair use doctrine, and sometimes they don't. 

Case citation(s), please.
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(03-11-2021, 12:56 PM)Bonaventure Wrote:
(03-11-2021, 12:55 PM)SeekerofChrist Wrote: Courts sometimes find that using an entire work falls under fair use doctrine, and sometimes they don't. 

Case citation(s), please.

I literally provided it already but here it is from the US Copyright Office, again:

Quote:Amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole: Under this factor, courts look at both the quantity and quality of the copyrighted material that was used. If the use includes a large portion of the copyrighted work, fair use is less likely to be found; if the use employs only a small amount of copyrighted material, fair use is more likely. That said, some courts have found use of an entire work to be fair under certain circumstances. And in other contexts, using even a small amount of a copyrighted work was determined not to be fair because the selection was an important part—or the “heart”—of the work.

See here for the original: https://www.copyright.gov/fair-use/index.html
"For the true friends of the people are neither revolutionaries nor innovators, but traditionalists."
- Pope St. Pius X

"For there shall be a time, when they will not endure sound doctrine; but, according to their own desires, they will heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears: And will indeed turn away their hearing from the truth, but will be turned unto fables."
- 2 Timothy 4:3-4

"Therefore God shall send them the operation of error, to believe lying: That all may be judged who have not believed the truth, but have consented to iniquity."
- 2 Thessalonians 2:11-12
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#14
Oh, I see you asked for case citations.  I don't have any on hand but could look some up.  The US Copyright Office is a government office that handles copyright info.  I doubt they'd falsely claim these rulings exist.
"For the true friends of the people are neither revolutionaries nor innovators, but traditionalists."
- Pope St. Pius X

"For there shall be a time, when they will not endure sound doctrine; but, according to their own desires, they will heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears: And will indeed turn away their hearing from the truth, but will be turned unto fables."
- 2 Timothy 4:3-4

"Therefore God shall send them the operation of error, to believe lying: That all may be judged who have not believed the truth, but have consented to iniquity."
- 2 Thessalonians 2:11-12
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#15
This discussion aside, in this case the infringement (if it is such) is so immaterial that no one would prosecute it.

Not that I am a fan of posting whole articles. But the bigger issue in this case is etiquette, not copyright.
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Here is an actual case involving fair use and the use of an entire document in an Internet setting: https://h2o.law.harvard.edu/cases/5187
"For the true friends of the people are neither revolutionaries nor innovators, but traditionalists."
- Pope St. Pius X

"For there shall be a time, when they will not endure sound doctrine; but, according to their own desires, they will heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears: And will indeed turn away their hearing from the truth, but will be turned unto fables."
- 2 Timothy 4:3-4

"Therefore God shall send them the operation of error, to believe lying: That all may be judged who have not believed the truth, but have consented to iniquity."
- 2 Thessalonians 2:11-12
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#17
Here are summaries of actual cases, with cases cited, that involved a variety of different examples of fair use doctrine: 
https://fairuse.stanford.edu/overview/fa...rnet_cases

Copyright and fair use doctrine are a gray area in the law.  Confident assertions that a forum member has actually violated US copyright law are uncalled for, at least in this situation.
"For the true friends of the people are neither revolutionaries nor innovators, but traditionalists."
- Pope St. Pius X

"For there shall be a time, when they will not endure sound doctrine; but, according to their own desires, they will heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears: And will indeed turn away their hearing from the truth, but will be turned unto fables."
- 2 Timothy 4:3-4

"Therefore God shall send them the operation of error, to believe lying: That all may be judged who have not believed the truth, but have consented to iniquity."
- 2 Thessalonians 2:11-12
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(03-11-2021, 01:09 PM)SeekerofChrist Wrote: Here are summaries of actual cases, with cases cited, that involved a variety of different examples of fair use doctrine: 
https://fairuse.stanford.edu/overview/fa...rnet_cases

Copyright and fair use doctrine are a gray area in the law.  Confident assertions that a forum member has actually violated US copyright law are uncalled for, at least in this situation.

Not one of those cases holds that copying an entire online article and pasting it in its entirety to another online forum constitutes 'fair use.'

Do a little bit more research than simply relying upon Copyright Office circulars.

Further, understand that when the Copyright Office refers to works, that encompasses a wide range of copyrightable subject matter, including: text; audio; visual; audio/visual; 2D Art; 3D Art, etc. In that regard, don't assume that what some "courts" found to be fair use with on type of subject matter will be the same for a different type of subject matter.

In the present context, we're talking about text, and text only. When the entirety of that text is copy/pasted without permission, copyright infringement has occurred, and it would be a rare, rare case that fair use is found.
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#19
(03-11-2021, 01:00 PM)Filiolus Wrote: This discussion aside, in this case the infringement (if it is such) is so immaterial that no one would prosecute it.

You'd think that, but for the past several years, the Democrat party has been trying to ram through legislation to assign steep (criminal) penalties to non-commercial infringement.
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#20
(03-11-2021, 01:00 PM)Filiolus Wrote: This discussion aside, in this case the infringement (if it is such) is so immaterial that no one would prosecute it.

You might think so, but copyright violation is the up and coming means to shut down websites and videos.
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