Maria Valtorta's Poem of the Man-God.
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(03-23-2021, 02:08 PM)Evangelium Wrote: "Blessed are you that weep now, for you shall laugh."  Luke 6:21.

If laughter is promised in the Beatitudes, there cannot be something unholy about it.  Jesus embodied the Beatitudes.  It is not unthinkable therefore that Jesus laughed.

That said, I in no way wish to defend The Poem of the Man-God.  I am persuaded that it is voluminous junk.
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You know, I've had this same argument with supporters of the Medjufraud, of 'Our Lady of the Roses' (Bayside) and of 'Mary, Queen of the Holy Rosary, Mediatrix of Peace' (Necedah). They all have similar arguments, based on half truths, distortions, and other 'explanations'.

A good example was when the Baysiders claimed that JPII had blessed the statue depicting Our Lady in the condemned 'apparition'. I did some research. It was true! Of course, what they neglected to mention was that it had been 'blessed' simultaneously with thousands of other statues, rosaries, and sundry sacramentals held up for his blessing in a general audience in St Peter's Square!

When the original poem is given an imprimatur, we can discuss the merits of the work. Until then, no Catholic should be reading a work condemned by the Holy Office.
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Here's the context of St. Peter asking for an adopted son. Many times he asked the Lord for one, but it was always denied. When finally the Mother of God interceded for St. Peter, just as at Cana, the wish was granted. The Lord goes on to tell St. Peter he has "defeated" Him by means of His Mother's Intercession.

Blessed Mother: "While You refuse him a son of his own, born of him, I understand the reason. A son is like an anchor. And Simon, who is destined to such a great task, cannot be hindered by anchors. But You must agree that he is to be the “father” of all the sons You will be leaving him. How can he be a father if he has had no training with a child? A father must be sweet. Simon is good, but not sweet. He is impulsive and intolerant. Only a little creature can teach him the fine art of being indulgent to whoever is weak ... [and so on, the Blessed Mother intercedes till finally] ... When we come here, so far, the boy will stay with her. Ah! You are smiling now! So You are going to please Your Mother. Thank You, My Jesus. »" ...

[Then Jesus says]: "I do not want to take anything from you. I want to give you something. But do not take advantage of your victory and do not disclose the secret to the others, you most artful fellow who defeats the Master by means of the weapon of His Mother's word. You will have the boy, but...» Jesus can say no more, because Peter, who had knelt down, bounces to his feet and kisses the Master with such delight that he makes the words die on His lips.

« Thank Her, not Me. But remember that this must be of assistance to you, and not an impediment...»
« My Lord, You will not have to repent of the gift... Oh! Mary! May You be always blessed, You holy and good...» And Peter, who has fallen on his knees
again, weeps, kissing Mary's hand..." Good, Pious and Holy. It makes us love Mother Mary more and more, thinking of the Power of Her Intercession.

Re: +ABL's words. Since Archbishop Lefebvre said, "And perhaps for some this reading can do good, it can bring them close to Our Lord, to try to imagine what would have been the life of the Apostles with Our Lord, the life at Nazareth, the life of Our Lord as the visits of the cities of Israel." +ABL admitted the book can do good for some readers. Sure, people have to be prepared for it. I think I posted earlier the example of David Webster who converted to the Church through reading it.

Quote:So the Malayalam edition, if published in the Diocese of Trivandrum would be approved. If not, then the imprimatur would need to come from the bishop who was the ordinary of the translator.


Beside the approval of Pope Pius XII, which is enough for circulation anywhere in the Church, the second edition of the book was approved by the Holy Office in 1961. That is another further confirmation that the books can be freely disseminated and safely read by good Catholics: "[b]Fr, Marco Giraudo, 0.P. Commissioner of the Holy Office in 1961[/b], to Fr, Berti, representing the Order of the Servants of Mary, and made responsible for her writings by Maria Vallorta herself (1961) : “You have our complete approval to continue the publication of this second edition of Valtorta’s Poem of the Man-God" https://punto.com.ph/testimonials-to-mar...rtas-work/ Two other examples of supernatural knowledge in Maria Valtorta's writings that came from God:

"Fr. Dreyfus, of the French Biblical and Archeological School, Jerusalem (1986): “I was greatly impressed on finding in Maria Valtorta’s work the names of at least six or seven towns, which are absent from the Old and New Testaments. These names are known but to a few specialists, and through non-biblical sources… […] Now, how could she have known these names, if not through the revelations she claims that she had?”

Dr, Vittorio Tredici, geologist and mineralogist, Italy (1952): “I wish to underline the author’s unexplainably precise knowledge of Palestine in its panoramic, topographic, geological and mineralogical aspects.”

According to some of you, it seems, the Pope, the Holy Office, multiple Cardinals, many Archbishops and several Bishops, as well as some traditional Bishops and Priests, are not enough. Apparently every single Bishop in every single language in every single jurisdiction must approve. There are some 5000 Bishops in the world, some 200 countries, some 300 langauges, some 10s of 1000s of jurisdictions! What you imagine must be done is pretty much impossible. When the Pope or Holy Office approves, that suffices for the whole Church. Additional Bishops giving Letters of Approval or Imprimaturs to the work in specific languages further goes to show that the work as a whole is approved by the Church. There are Saints and Blesseds who, after and along with Sacred Scripture, have greatly promoted this work, including Biblical Scholar Bl. Fr. Gabriel Allegra.
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DRBO has a great excerpt from the Poem on the Raising of Lazarus from the dead. http://www.drbo.org/lazarus.htm There is not the slightest taint of any historical modernism in the book. It fully vindicates all the miracles that Christ did. As David Webster, who converted to the Catholic Church on reading the work, said, the book provides new and miraculous confirmation of all of Christ's Works.

"Joseph of Arimathea makes a gesture as if he were frightened and beckons to the Zealot to restrain Jesus. But He is already going towards the rancorous group and is already saying loud:

"Sadoc, is what you have seen enough for you? One day you told Me that in order to believe, you and your peers needed to see a decomposed dead body be recomposed and in good health. Are you satisfied with the rottenness you have seen? Can you admit that Lazarus was dead and that now he is alive and healthy, as he has never been for many years? I know. You came here to tempt these people, to increase their grief and their doubt. You came here looking for Me, hoping to find Me hiding in the room of the dying man. You did not come with feelings of love and with the desire to honour the deceased man, but to ensure that Lazarus was really dead, and you have continued to come rejoicing all the more as time went by. If the situation had evolved as you were hoping, as you believed it would evolve, you would have been right in exulting."

"The Friend Who cures everybody, but does not cure His friend. The Master Who rewards everybody's faith, but not the faith of His friends in Bethany. The Messiah powerless against the reality of death. That is what was making you exult. Then God gave you His reply. No prophet had ever been able to put together what was decomposed, in addition to being dead. God did it. That is the living witness of what I am. One day it was God Who took some dust and made it into a form and He breathed the vital spirit into it and man was. I was there to say: "Let man be made in our own image and likeness". Because I am the Word of the Father. Today, I, the Word, said to what is even less than dust, I said to rottenness: "Live", and decomposition was recomposed into flesh, into wholesome, living, breathing flesh. There it is looking at you. And to the flesh I joined the spirit that had been lying for days in Abraham's bosom. I called him with My will, because I can do everything, as I am the Living Being, the King of kings to Whom all creatures and things are subject. What are you going to reply to Me now?"

He is in front of them, tall, ablaze with majesty, really Judge and God. They do not reply. He insists: "Is it not yet enough for you to believe, to accept what is ineluctable?"

"You have kept but one part of Your promise. This is not the sign of Jonah ..." says Sadoc harshly.

"You shall have that one as well. I promised it and I will keep My promise" says the Lord. "And another person, who is present here, and is waiting for another sign, shall have it. And as he is a just man, he will accept it. You will not. You will remain what you are."

I fully understand why Modernists oppose the work. In the language of one of them "Jesus is always ready (in the work) to proclaim Himself the Messiah, the Lord and Son of God", and nothing is more grievous to historical Modernists than that Our Lord Jesus should confirm all these dogmas of Catholic Faith, and that people should believe them. Similarly, the Blessed Virgin Mary supposedly "speaks like a propagandist for Marian dogma", specifically Marian Co-Redemption, which these modernists also despise. So it's understandable they would oppose. What I don't understand is why some traditionalists oppose the work, though some traditional Priests are favorable. Perhaps many have not read the work in detail yet. It is a good book. It contains nothing contrary to Faith, as many Bishops and Cardinals have said. It contains many incidents highly edifying and spiritually profitable to read.

The above is just one example. Any one who reads it to be better instructed in Christ's Life will come away with stronger faith in His Divinity, His Miracles, Etc.
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