Refutation of Ubi Petrus
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(04-01-2021, 02:03 PM)Melkite Wrote:
SeekerofChrist Wrote:A messy situation, to be sure.  Do you need your wife's permission to become an Eastern Catholic?  Would she be enraged?  She doesn't have to make the switch with you.  Beyond that, I do not think you'll find the Eastern Catholics reject papal infallibility or universal jurisdiction.  If they do, I'd love to see a source for that.  It has always been my understanding that they do accept those dogmas.  And if I'm right about them doing so, perhaps you could profit from reading about those doctrines from Eastern Catholic sources.  Perhaps they understand and explain them in a way that will be easier for you to accept.

Papal infallibility and universal jurisdiction, along with the filioque, purgatory, and other Latin peculiarities, aren't officially, or even de facto, rejected (though there are a number of individuals who take it upon themselves to do so).  But they aren't really highlighted or paid much attention to, either.  They just don't play much of a role in Byzantine spirituality.  Because of this, the Eastern Catholic indifference towards them can come across as implicit rejection.

I suspected that this was probably the case.  I did not think that the Eastern Catholics rejected these Catholic dogmas.  They're part of the Catholic Church, after all.  But our friend here seems convinced that they don't believe these things.  He even seems convinced that Rome has repudiated them.  I'd grant they've been watered-down in places like Rome but that's the extent of it.  Once more, the fruits of Vatican II have been confusion and error on even defined dogmas.  Such a pity.
"For the true friends of the people are neither revolutionaries nor innovators, but traditionalists."
- Pope St. Pius X

"For there shall be a time, when they will not endure sound doctrine; but, according to their own desires, they will heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears: And will indeed turn away their hearing from the truth, but will be turned unto fables."
- 2 Timothy 4:3-4

"Therefore God shall send them the operation of error, to believe lying: That all may be judged who have not believed the truth, but have consented to iniquity."
- 2 Thessalonians 2:11-12
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Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by StJosephPrayForUs - 03-31-2021, 10:01 PM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by jovan66102 - 03-31-2021, 10:10 PM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by jovan66102 - 03-31-2021, 10:14 PM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by SeekerofChrist - 03-31-2021, 10:52 PM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by Justin Tertius - 04-01-2021, 02:18 AM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by Melkite - 04-01-2021, 09:47 AM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by Justin Tertius - 04-01-2021, 11:18 AM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by Justin Tertius - 04-01-2021, 11:41 AM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by SeekerofChrist - 04-01-2021, 01:20 PM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by Justin Tertius - 04-01-2021, 01:58 PM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by Justin Tertius - 04-01-2021, 11:16 AM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by SeekerofChrist - 04-01-2021, 01:06 PM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by Melkite - 04-01-2021, 02:03 PM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by SeekerofChrist - 04-01-2021, 02:46 PM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by jovan66102 - 04-01-2021, 04:37 PM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by Augustinian - 04-01-2021, 06:48 PM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by jovan66102 - 04-01-2021, 06:58 PM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by SeekerofChrist - 04-01-2021, 08:26 PM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by Filiolus - 04-01-2021, 10:18 PM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by Augustinian - 04-01-2021, 10:26 PM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by SeekerofChrist - 04-02-2021, 06:29 AM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by Paul - 04-01-2021, 10:02 PM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by Echo - 04-07-2021, 09:40 PM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by XavierSem - 04-01-2021, 04:39 AM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by Filiolus - 04-01-2021, 10:59 AM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by XavierSem - 04-02-2021, 07:47 AM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by Echo - 04-07-2021, 08:51 PM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by Some Guy - 07-02-2021, 09:02 PM



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