Refutation of Ubi Petrus
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(04-01-2021, 04:37 PM)jovan66102 Wrote:
(04-01-2021, 04:11 PM)StJosephPrayForUs Wrote: Or Vatican II is just the beginning of God purifying His church from the errors of raising the papacy above God?

If you believe that, I have to ask in all seriousness, why you are on a Traditionalist forum where the vast majority of members believe that Vatican II was an unmitigated disaster for the Church?

Jovan there's nothing wrong with believing Vatican II was a disaster in it's design and/or implementation.  Some members on here go entirely too far in calling Vatican II and the Roman Church after Vatican II the "anti-church" as though their private interpretation of tradition is part of the remnant/faithful/true church.  It's patently absurd, but it's a prevailing point of view on traditional websites and forums.

As to the other user who asked why I'm here, with my difficulty in accepting the papal claims.  It's because I want to get the other side.  I am not fully convinced of Orthodoxy's attacks against the papacy and am also not fully convinced of Rome's papal claims.  I had only really known them at a nominal level.  I figured if I could sort through the toxic users on here, I could find the solid traditional Catholics who could make a case for it, and other things.
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Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by StJosephPrayForUs - 03-31-2021, 10:01 PM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by jovan66102 - 03-31-2021, 10:10 PM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by jovan66102 - 03-31-2021, 10:14 PM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by SeekerofChrist - 03-31-2021, 10:52 PM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by Justin Tertius - 04-01-2021, 02:18 AM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by Melkite - 04-01-2021, 09:47 AM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by Justin Tertius - 04-01-2021, 11:18 AM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by Justin Tertius - 04-01-2021, 11:41 AM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by SeekerofChrist - 04-01-2021, 01:20 PM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by Justin Tertius - 04-01-2021, 01:58 PM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by Justin Tertius - 04-01-2021, 11:16 AM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by SeekerofChrist - 04-01-2021, 01:06 PM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by Melkite - 04-01-2021, 02:03 PM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by SeekerofChrist - 04-01-2021, 02:46 PM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by jovan66102 - 04-01-2021, 04:37 PM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by StJosephPrayForUs - 04-01-2021, 06:42 PM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by Augustinian - 04-01-2021, 06:48 PM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by jovan66102 - 04-01-2021, 06:58 PM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by SeekerofChrist - 04-01-2021, 08:26 PM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by Filiolus - 04-01-2021, 10:18 PM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by Augustinian - 04-01-2021, 10:26 PM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by SeekerofChrist - 04-02-2021, 06:29 AM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by Paul - 04-01-2021, 10:02 PM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by Echo - 04-07-2021, 09:40 PM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by XavierSem - 04-01-2021, 04:39 AM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by Filiolus - 04-01-2021, 10:59 AM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by XavierSem - 04-02-2021, 07:47 AM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by Echo - 04-07-2021, 08:51 PM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by Some Guy - 07-02-2021, 09:02 PM



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