Refutation of Ubi Petrus
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(04-01-2021, 10:07 PM)StJosephPrayForUs Wrote:
(04-01-2021, 08:26 PM)SeekerofChrist Wrote:
(04-01-2021, 06:58 PM)jovan66102 Wrote:
(04-01-2021, 06:42 PM)StJosephPrayForUs Wrote: I figured if I could sort through the toxic users on here, I could find the solid traditional Catholics who could make a case for it, and other things.

We've been making the case for it, using the Eastern Fathers, and quoting Conciliar and Papal statements, and for doing so, we get called 'toxic'?

From what I can gather, he considers that quote mining because some guy has a series of 3 hour long videos that say so.  I don't know about anyone else but I don't have the time to review these videos and refute them for the OP.

I never asked anyone here to do that.  Just asked if anyone knows of any Catholic apologist who addressed his arguments.  So far the only ones that have tried have been absolutely shredded by the logic and reasoning of Ubi Petrus.  Even if you read the comments in the youtube videos, where various people try to continue the conversation on both sides, you will see Holy Orthodoxy winning hands down.  I came here looking for the truth about Catholicism and you guys helped me find it.  Holy Orthodoxy is Christ's One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church.  Rome is just a schismatic breakaway sect that has been swirling the toilet since 1054ad (and arguably much earlier than that) and you trads have only begun to recognize it at the Second Vatican Council.  You aren't looking back far enough.

I just looked over the comments on the video "Refuting Erick Ybarra & Matt Fradd | Yes, you should become Eastern Orthodox."  No, Holy Orthodoxy isn't winning hands down.  I do see comments not dissimilar to ours here: confident assertions that their church is the truth.  Another portion of the comments are by those saying, more or less, that they're so glad they became Orthodox.  There isn't much of substance in the comments, which is to be expected in a combox.

What really amuses me is how you conduct yourself here.  You accuse us of being arrogant, self-righteous AND then you say things like "Rome is just a schismatic breakaway sect that has been swirling the toilet since 1054ad."  You're well on your way to being an Orthodox, because those kinds of anti-Catholic statements are common in the EO world.  Yet, we're arrogant and self-righteous.  You're looking in a mirror and seeing your own image reflected back to you.  So much for all this supposed Orthodox humility and love you've been raving about.
"For the true friends of the people are neither revolutionaries nor innovators, but traditionalists."
- Pope St. Pius X

"For there shall be a time, when they will not endure sound doctrine; but, according to their own desires, they will heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears: And will indeed turn away their hearing from the truth, but will be turned unto fables."
- 2 Timothy 4:3-4

"Therefore God shall send them the operation of error, to believe lying: That all may be judged who have not believed the truth, but have consented to iniquity."
- 2 Thessalonians 2:11-12
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Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by StJosephPrayForUs - 03-31-2021, 10:01 PM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by jovan66102 - 03-31-2021, 10:10 PM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by jovan66102 - 03-31-2021, 10:14 PM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by SeekerofChrist - 03-31-2021, 10:52 PM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by Justin Tertius - 04-01-2021, 02:18 AM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by Melkite - 04-01-2021, 09:47 AM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by Justin Tertius - 04-01-2021, 11:18 AM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by Justin Tertius - 04-01-2021, 11:41 AM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by SeekerofChrist - 04-01-2021, 01:20 PM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by Justin Tertius - 04-01-2021, 01:58 PM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by Justin Tertius - 04-01-2021, 11:16 AM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by SeekerofChrist - 04-01-2021, 01:06 PM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by Melkite - 04-01-2021, 02:03 PM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by SeekerofChrist - 04-01-2021, 02:46 PM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by jovan66102 - 04-01-2021, 04:37 PM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by Augustinian - 04-01-2021, 06:48 PM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by jovan66102 - 04-01-2021, 06:58 PM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by SeekerofChrist - 04-01-2021, 08:26 PM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by Filiolus - 04-01-2021, 10:18 PM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by Augustinian - 04-01-2021, 10:26 PM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by SeekerofChrist - 04-02-2021, 06:29 AM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by Paul - 04-01-2021, 10:02 PM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by Echo - 04-07-2021, 09:40 PM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by XavierSem - 04-01-2021, 04:39 AM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by Filiolus - 04-01-2021, 10:59 AM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by XavierSem - 04-02-2021, 07:47 AM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by Echo - 04-07-2021, 08:51 PM
RE: Refutation of Ubi Petrus - by Some Guy - 07-02-2021, 09:02 PM



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