Any former political extremists here?
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(04-15-2021, 04:43 PM)ServusDei Wrote: Political extremism is a religion. Many people nowadays, even baptized Catholics, are political extremists. People seek to redeem the world through a method other than total consecration to Christ. They build a modern Babel.

It is an impossible task. They get discouraged. You start out spiritually lukewarm and become spiritually dead.

Don't label yourself. You are not a Republican. You are not a Democract. You are no conservative. Nor are you a liberal. You are a human. That means you are made in the Image of God. That means you are to know Him. Love Him. and Serve Him. Through your life.

Knowing, Loving, and Serving Him is what gives meaning and purpose to your life. Your life, without Him, is nothing. Your life, through Him, is everything. Hang on to Him. He's all we need, and He's all we've got.
You are so right. I should not label myself by any political measure. I NEEDED to hear this. Thank you!
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(04-14-2021, 11:55 AM)austenbosten Wrote: Well that's funny because Nazism incorporates the materialism of Marxism...Nazism really is socialist.



^ To note I don't entirely agree with what this guy says (he's a self-described follower of the Austrian School of socio-political-economics).  However he is correct that Nazism was really just socialism for Germans-only.  Though Hitler himself was really more of a pragmatist above all.  He would be a captialist if it would achieve his vision of a pan-German empire with master Aryans basking in glory and listening to Wagner.

Oh, it's not just the materialism they adopted. I wrote a blogpost two or three years ago, examining the commonalities between communism on the one hand and Nazism and fascism on the other. They are both openly and brazenly revolutionary, anti-Christian, and anti-tradition.

Here's a paragraph from it:

He [Erik Maria Ritter von Kuehnelt-Leddihn] points out that the two are like a pair of shoemakers in a village, vigourously competing for the custom of the villagers, and that the true conservative, who currently must be a reactionary to restore order and sanity to society, is the fellow who suddenly says that everybody should go barefoot, thus becoming the enemy of both revolutionary parties.

If you'd like to read the whole thing, here it is: Fascism/Naziism and Communism are Blood Brothers

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In answer to the OP's question, I am probably the only Traditionalist Catholic in the world who has, at one time or another, been a member of all four 'Internationals' or one of their constituent formations (anarchists don't have political 'parties'. LOL!) for those that no longer exist.

When I was about 20, I ran across references to the Student League for Industrial Democracy. By the time I discovered it, it had become the Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) which I did later join, and which had severed its connection to the League for Industrial Democracy, but at the time it led me to the original parent organisation.

Through this connection, I began my arduous journey through the dark forests of leftism. Over the next few years, I was member at one time or another of the Socialist Party of America, which had been, successively, a member of the Second International, the Labour and Socialist International, and the Socialist International. I joined the New Democratic Party of Canada, which party had itself been formed from a merger of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (Farmer-Labour-Socialist), the Canadian Labour Congress, and a socialist 'think tank' called the League for Social Reconstruction. It too was a member of the Socialist International. Just to round out my 'Second International socialism', I also the joined the Fabian Society (UK), a constituent part of the Labour Party which made me a member of that Party.

Moving quite a bit to the left, I then joined the Industrial Workers of the World (IWW) a/k/a the 'Wobblies', an anarcho-syndicalist labour union. I also discovered the International Workers' Association (IWA), and its British affiliate the Syndicalist Workers' Federation which I joined, both of which were also anarcho-syndicalist. The IWA was a successor group, founded in 1922, to the anarchist tendency in the 'First International', the International Workingmen's Association. 

I made 'pilgrimage' to the grave of the anarchist Emma Goldman, who had gone to the Soviet Union, but became disillusioned and tried to return to the US. She was denied re-entry and went to Canada. When she died, her body was returned to the US and buried in the German Waldheim in Chicago.

By then, the Vietnam War was in full swing. I had been participating in peaceful protests since early in 1968. I became involved with the Student Mobilization (sic) to End the War in Vietnam, which was actually a front group for the Socialist Workers Party (SWP) and its youth wing, the Young Socialist Alliance, both of which were Troskyite in origin, and would have belonged to the 'Fourth International' had it still existed.. As a result, I was drawn into the YSA and applied for membership in the SWP. I soon became disillusioned, however, because I discovered that these people, who prided themselves on being 'Old Bolsheviks', the 'vanguard of the working class', were actually upper middle class bourgeoisie. One time, at a social gathering, I described having to split wood on the farm as a boy. One of the other 'workers' expressed astonishment, saying that he had only split wood when his family went to their cabin on the lake for summer holidays!

As a result of my disillusionment, but still convinced of Marxism, I sought out the Communist Party USA, a member Party of the Third International before Stalin dissolved it in a propaganda ploy, becoming a Candidate Member. I left the Party after a few months because of profound differences over certain policies. Technically I was 'purged' from the Party! However, my time in the CPUSA started my journey into Catholicism, so, in the long run, my wanderings in the swamps of leftism had a happy outcome.

As I said, my last stop in leftism was the CPUSA. This was long before Gorbachev and to be a communist was to look to the Soviet Union as a model. My natural curiosity led me to not only study marxism, but to explore the history and culture of Mother Russia. This led to an interest in Orthodoxy and, ultimately, to my acceptance into the Serbian Orthodox Church at age 27 and that began my journey to reception into the Catholic Church at 33. Since then, and especially as I've learned more and more about the authentic social teaching of the Church, my politics have simply been Catholic.
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No, never been a political or any other type of extremist.

In my view succumbing to extremist ideology of any type requires one to forego rational thought of their own. Unfortunately, America and the world for that matter, is ate up with people who are all to willing to be suckered into a particular group or another across the spectrum.

Once this happens, it is all or none, folks aren't willing to listen to the other side, folks too easily accept false information from people they "agree" with as gospel, and stop thinking for themselves.

This is in a large part what is wrong with our society. Unfortunately, there seems to be an abundance of similar thinking on forums such as this.
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My, my...aren't we proud of ourselves.

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(04-17-2021, 12:04 PM)austenbosten Wrote: My, my...aren't we proud of ourselves.

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Me? No I simply wanted the Truth. I did not believe there was absolute truth but I pursued regardless. Now I am here, and wish to set fire to the Old Me. Now I know the Truth, I need not look to the world for inspiration.
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We're all right-wing extremist nuts here. Sorry, no former ones.
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