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(04-29-2021, 03:36 PM)Sword of St. Michael Wrote: If you dont mind, since you mentioned it, I had always thought that a pope was above a council. A pope can nulify a council, not vice versa, and a council can not be used against a pope as no man can judge the pope. No bishop or groups of bishops can judge a pope. Councils are made up of groups of bishops. Thus a council can't judge a pope. A pope can though.

Thus, my thinking has always been the pope is above that of a council. They do share in their ability to be infalliable, but the pope gets his infalliability straight from God under strict sanctions, where the council gets it due to their connection to the pope. A council then can only be infalliable if the pope gives it the authority to do so, thus making the pope the giver of that authority. Thus, the pope is greater then a council since he holds the keys and can bind/loose, where a council only can if he the pope approves of it, he can nulify the acts of a council on his own, where as a council can't unless the current pope approves of it and thus its through his authority not theirs that the act is done.
I think this is a good source if you want to understand this:

https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04423f.htm

A pope cannot nullify an ecumenical council that has been approved by a pope (himself or a previous one). An ecumenical council cannot depose a true pope, but it can determine that a certain papal claimant is not the true pope (as happened to antipope John XXIII).
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R&R discussion - by Sword of St. Michael - 04-28-2021, 10:48 AM
RE: R&R discussion - by Memories_in_Rain - 04-28-2021, 11:21 AM
RE: R&R discussion - by Bataar - 04-28-2021, 02:43 PM
RE: R&R discussion - by Adventus - 04-28-2021, 04:20 PM
RE: R&R discussion - by Memories_in_Rain - 04-28-2021, 04:41 PM
RE: R&R discussion - by MacPasquale - 04-28-2021, 05:06 PM
RE: R&R discussion - by Memories_in_Rain - 04-28-2021, 05:28 PM
RE: R&R discussion - by Adventus - 04-28-2021, 05:41 PM
RE: R&R discussion - by Marmot - 04-28-2021, 04:49 PM
RE: R&R discussion - by Sword of St. Michael - 04-29-2021, 10:30 AM
RE: R&R discussion - by Marmot - 04-29-2021, 11:33 AM
RE: R&R discussion - by Sword of St. Michael - 04-29-2021, 03:36 PM
RE: R&R discussion - by Marmot - 04-29-2021, 04:26 PM
RE: R&R discussion - by MacPasquale - 04-28-2021, 07:09 PM
RE: R&R discussion - by Memories_in_Rain - 04-28-2021, 08:00 PM
RE: R&R discussion - by MacPasquale - 04-28-2021, 07:21 PM
RE: R&R discussion - by MacPasquale - 04-28-2021, 10:37 PM
RE: R&R discussion - by Memories_in_Rain - 04-29-2021, 08:01 AM
RE: R&R discussion - by MacPasquale - 04-28-2021, 10:47 PM
RE: R&R discussion - by lukeg03 - 04-29-2021, 01:55 AM
RE: R&R discussion - by Justin Tertius - 04-29-2021, 02:00 AM
RE: R&R discussion - by jovan66102 - 04-29-2021, 02:04 AM
RE: R&R discussion - by Bataar - 04-29-2021, 11:26 AM
RE: R&R discussion - by Marmot - 04-29-2021, 11:54 AM
RE: R&R discussion - by Adventus - 04-29-2021, 02:01 PM
RE: R&R discussion - by MacPasquale - 04-29-2021, 11:26 AM
RE: R&R discussion - by jovan66102 - 04-29-2021, 04:35 PM
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