What are conservative Novus Ordo Catholics?
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(07-20-2021, 07:54 AM)muffinman145 Wrote:
(07-20-2021, 06:49 AM)ChairmanJoeAintMyPresident Wrote:
(07-19-2021, 10:05 PM)austenbosten Wrote: While NO types in their polo shirts and slacks may look goofy with their orans position at Mass...they are at least joyful and at least have a love for Christ.

Do you mean the older generation whose kids and grandkids don't even attend Mass weekly?

Or do you mean the young adults who have 2-3 kids and then get a vasectomy in their early 30s?

Virtually all protestants are joyful and love Christ.  Or at least they love the person they think He is.
Yeah, I thought it was weird when Austen said "The marker of a Christian is joy." 
When I read about the Saints I just don't get the picture of the goofy, effeminate, smiley-glad hands protestant "joy" that you also see in some NO parishes. The marker of a Christian I'd say is piety and holiness, which isn't always "joyful".

I doubt there is only one marker that identifies a Christian.  Well, except for baptism, that is.  But I guess we're talking about a "good Christian" or something much more specific.  When Austen mentioned joy, the first thing I thought of was Galatians 5:22, where St. Paul lists joy as one of the fruits of the Spirit.  I would say that an authentic joy, rooted in the Spirit and faithfulness to God, is certainly a good sign that a person is on the right track.  But some Saints have definitely been gloomy and I've had enough experience in the mental health world to know that some people, more than one might realize, are very good at putting on a joyful face and demeanor while inwardly they're depressed, anxious, unhappy, etc.  The same is probably true of outward appearances of piety and holiness. 

My own experience with Protestants is that many appear joyful and happy during their worship services, but then they kind of crash afterwards or even display very unattractive qualities.  I remember once, during my early exploration of Christianity, sitting in on a coffee social hour after one Lutheran worship service.  It had been a happy, joyful service, but during the coffee hour, people gossiped and said all manner of unpleasant things about absent family members and (of course) Catholics and our unreasonable beliefs about divorce (turns out, half of these Lutherans were remarried divorcees).
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RE: What are conservative Novus Ordo Catholics? - by SeekerofChrist - 07-20-2021, 08:15 AM



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